Cordoba, ARGENTINA - Journalist


Interview made by Cyril Bruyelle​ in January 2017

After I told the story of 20 Questions to the World to Mariana, a journalist that I met in Mendoza, she told me that I had to interview Jorgelina, who would for sure have great things to say. I met with Jorgelina in the backyard of my hostel, where a photograph also came to take shots during the interview. She was wearing a red dress and some makeup for the nonce. First a bit shy, she then explained to me that she was a journalist, mainly working for trans radios and medias. As roughly half of the Argentinian population, Jorgelina has Italian roots.

What did you want to be when you were a kid?

When I was a child, I didn't really understand what was happening with me but I was already thinking that later I would be a woman. I thought something was wrong but also that I needed to be patient, that things would change naturally.


With whom would you like to have a coffee?

With Cristina [Kirchner]. Because I admire her. I mean, who wouldn’t want to be President? And how could I personally be President? Imagine, the first trans president, the first gay president. I really admire her and what she managed to do as a woman. I would like to congratulate her over a coffee. She seems very intelligent and funny. People talk about what she did or didn't do, but I applause her rather for what she achieved as a person.


If you could choose something that could be taught in every school in the world, what would it be?

Well, exactly what they don't teach today meaning sexual education, which is really left aside. They say there is a law, but no one seems to know about it. Everything about homosexuality and transsexuals is seen in a bad way.

But it starts to change, little by little. Everyone has that transgender or gay neighbour, people in their surroundings, and that’s how people learn about it.

So it would a subject explaining how people are, but for real. The truth is not only limited to a man and a woman having sex to have a baby, there is more than that

Things are changing but we need to be patient.


What’s the main characteristic that all human beings have in common?

The biological features, emotions, whether they are good or bad… But then they differ depending on different cultures. We can't all be put in the same basket. For example, good has a definition for Muslims that can be different for us.

In the end, what we have in common is not so important. I prefer differences, and that differences are accepted. Truth is that I’m a bit fed up with similarities. It’s like if there was a standard, a limit. Actually there’s no. That’s why I like being transgender, because before I felt like an ordinary guy. I also liked it but I enjoy having something different.


To you, who’s the happiest person on earth?

I believe the kings and the queens of the world. And me too, without being a queen, I am happy.


If you were President of the US, what would your first reform be?

I don’t want to be the US president.


What do you need?

I would need to travel more probably, travel to discover new countries.


What would you do if we gave you 1 million dollars now?

Firstly, I would talk to a friend of mine who is an accountant, a good guy who will not try to rip me off. So he would tell me what to do, like investing in the stocks or I don’t know what. It’s his job. Truth is that I wouldn't know what to do.


What’s the news that affects you the most in your country these days?

For me the good ones are the most important. I follow a Facebook page which only features positive news. I think we don't hear enough good news. You can always find one or two in the newspapers but they mostly focus on the negative ones.

Good news is what we should be talking about, whether it's about new discoveries, cultural or artistic information, about consciousness. It's specifically these which will contribute to changing the world in a good way.

Unfortunately it seems more normal to talk about bad news.


Which innovation, realistic or not, would greatly ease your day-to-day life?

Have and surgery to get a vagina.

Today it’s very complicated with little chance of success. When it becomes a more common practice, that would make me even happier than I already am.


If you had a create a company, what would it be?

I don't really know, maybe something in the sector of radio or tv, with a show.


Can you draw something beautiful?

A butterfly, it is also what I have as a tattoo here on my arm. It’s a symbol of transformation.


Can you sing something beautiful?

I don't like singing. I play piano and violin, but I don't like singing.


What are you afraid of?

Scared? I'm not scared of anything !


What is your dream?

I don't have a general or long-term dream, I dream at night and then I wake up.


Close your eyes, we’re in 2100, what do you see?

Hmmm, I'm not interested in what will happen, what I'm interested in is what happens now, during the interview and what I will do in a short while, but I don't really care about the rest.


What’s the most beautiful thing that you’ve seen in your life?

Probably people, landscapes, men, my mother, myself, dogs, nature.


If you had to write a book about the current world, what would be the title?

Sane people in a crazy world


Who is God for you?

He is not the man in the clouds with his big beard. It took me a lot of time to realise that it was not that man. God is nature. He is in everything which surrounds us, an energy. Whether some people created us, I don't know, I didn't see it. But we can see it in the things which exist. God is the existence itself, I am also God, you too, because we always grow.


Which of your country’s cultural specificities are you the proudest of?

Argentina is a mix of so many races, ethnic groups, and cultures that it’s hard for me to answer. My grandparents are Spanish and Italian, I do not consider myself so much of a South American person. I don't really like the Argentinian things actually. I prefer the those of Spain, Italy…

I guess that a typical Argentinian person would tell you "el gaucho”, or “el mate" but I don't like all these things. I do appreciate very much the cultural diversity in Argentina, there is a bit of everything, some things from the Yankees, the Italians, the Armenians… Diversity here is very nice and works well.


If you could do any job regardless of money, what would it be?

I believe I would continue working for the radio, which is something I have very much enjoyed doing for the last four years. I would invite people to talk about art, culture, science, metaphysics… the things which fascinate me. Then you are in direct contact with all things that are happening, that’s what I love.

I would need someone to help me though because I used to do it all by myself and it was very energy consuming.


If you had to explain our planet to an alien, what would you say?

I would tell him that our planet is like an experiment with different races, and lots of people. There are plants and animals of all types. You need to be patient because anything can happen to you. Its very fun and beautiful. They should come to get to know us.


And you, which question would you like to ask to the world?

Would you like to live forever? And in good health, like staying forever in your thirties.